# Brain Damage Documentary (New) Nam Phan **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Tags:** mma-news\ **Created:** [July 9, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467 "2025-07-09T16:36:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tztinkle](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/tztinkle/32/339457_2.png) [@tztinkle](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/tztinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/42 "2025-07-10T22:10:36Z")
> [@Walbjj](#): > > I wonder if he is aware of his decline? I always wonder this too. I mean I’m sure they know but it’s such an impolite question to ask you rarely hear people speak about it. ---
**Author:** ![Walbjj](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/walbjj/32/2481_2.png) [@Walbjj](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Walbjj)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/43 "2025-07-10T22:25:32Z")
I actually pointed it out to the person I know with the shakes. He then explained his situation, so he definitely knew something was up ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy-Coconuts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/jimmy-coconuts/32/479643_2.png) [@Jimmy-Coconuts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Jimmy-Coconuts)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/44 "2025-07-10T23:01:28Z")
> [@HongKongPhooey](#): > > Schilling Joe was cool as fuck with me when I went to a weigh in for Glory. Got to take face offs with a lot of dudes that day: ![Schilling-Me](https://onlyground-uploads.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/4X/2/1/1/211021294414628846d1ca4a19bae96f995d254c.jpeg) ![Ristie-Me](https://onlyground-uploads.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/4X/1/f/6/1f63e222276e86b3e4fce4ee7bf0267cc985390d.jpeg) ![Roosmalen-Me](https://onlyground-uploads.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/4X/b/e/2/be24119edbb0b077b6b6300e2e3f3ec5f3757476.jpeg) ![Petrosyan-Me](https://onlyground-uploads.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/4X/7/c/1/7c13d89d4e9df30f6b76717be763df5e0fc64c9c.jpeg) Not to Crowbar it up or anything here. Being able to look these dudes dead in the eyes and square up with them was cool as fuck. ---
**Author:** ![jake11](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/jake11/32/1019_2.png) [@jake11](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/jake11)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/45 "2025-07-10T23:05:30Z")
So enlightening. For some reason I thought you were a black guy.. No clue why I thought that.. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy-Coconuts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/jimmy-coconuts/32/479643_2.png) [@Jimmy-Coconuts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Jimmy-Coconuts)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/46 "2025-07-10T23:06:05Z")
I’m not black? ---
**Author:** ![TexDeuce](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/texdeuce/32/2242_2.png) [@TexDeuce](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/TexDeuce)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/47 "2025-07-10T23:49:01Z")
> [@Burner2274](#): > > > [@TexDeuce](#): > > > > First time I’ve ever seen anyone argue MMA is worse than boxing. > > I don’t know one way or the other, but lately I’ve been seeing articles stating MMA is worse because headkicks and such have much more force than punches How many flush headkicks are landing in an MMA fight? Not many. Most get blocked or partially land. Boxers take way more trauma to the head over the course of a career. ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/masterofmartialarts/32/393427_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/48 "2025-07-11T00:07:12Z")
> [@TexDeuce](#): > > > [@Spinelock](#): > > > > Boxing doesn’t have 3 additional hammer fists when someone’s already comatose. > > Boxing allows people that are already concussed and borderline KO’d to get back up and fight on for the rest of the fight taking way more headshots than guys do in MMA. Not to mention the sparring headshots that are significantly more in boxing. > > First time I’ve ever seen anyone argue MMA is worse than boxing. Yup. Boxing is way worse. More rounds, 16 oz gloves… sparring with headgear is even worse too. Also, aren’t most boxing fights basically unlimited knockdowns? I don’t know boxing like I do MMA but I’ve never seen a fight stopped due to a specific number of knockdowns. Only because a fighter couldn’t continue. ---
**Author:** ![dojostormer](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/dojostormer/32/2893_2.png) [@dojostormer](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/dojostormer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/49 "2025-07-11T00:40:34Z")
Knew a guy who was a national level boxer. From when I first met him he was very sharp, then over the years his condition slipped to slurring words. Weight loss. Neck surgery. A whole bunch of medical issues. I used to have chats with him about geopolitics, etc. Smart guy. Was a massive communist though. Had a Che tattoo. Top notch guy though. He died of MND and it came on very fast ---
**Author:** ![Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/burner2274/32/4890_2.png) [@Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Burner2274)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/50 "2025-07-11T00:51:00Z")
Well, it’s usually 3 in a round. Some don’t have that limit, and it’s up to the referees discretion, but even then a good ref is going to stop the fight after 3 ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/masterofmartialarts/32/393427_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/51 "2025-07-11T01:04:05Z")
> [@Burner2274](#): > > Well, it’s usually 3 in a round. Some don’t have that limit, and it’s up to the referees discretion, but even then a good ref is going to stop the fight after 3 I’ve heard three in a round as well but I’ve never seen one stopped like that before. I don’t watch boxing all the time but yeah 3 in a round is nuts and should always be stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/burner2274/32/4890_2.png) [@Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Burner2274)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/52 "2025-07-11T01:08:33Z")
It happened in Mike Tysons Punch Out all the time. I’m sure I’ve seen it in a real boxing match, but it is rare. 3 minutes isn’t much time to get 3 knockdowns ---
**Author:** ![Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Psycho)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/53 "2025-07-11T01:11:54Z")
I’m not disagreeing - purely asking for my own benefit - but do you have any idea why MMA might lead to more of this than boxing, judo, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![Spinelock](https://forum.theonlyground.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Spinelock](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Spinelock)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/54 "2025-07-11T01:12:48Z")
Boxing could be worse, I guess we’ll find out eventually. Please don’t let your children engage in activities that endanger their brains. ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/masterofmartialarts/32/393427_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/55 "2025-07-11T01:18:08Z")
Boxing is definitely worse. There have been lots of deaths too. I wonder what the numbers would be for something like Judo. Training is probably safer now but I know a lot of people have gotten fucked up from being dropped on the head repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Psycho)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/56 "2025-07-11T01:20:52Z")
Haha, I was being purely selfish: I don’t have kids, but I did get kicked in the head a lot. 🙂 In all seriousness there is a very long history of boxing, at least here in the U.K., and whilst there are individual stories which are undeniably tragic, I don’t think there’s the level of dementia implied by this report - and assuming my admittedly hearsay knowledge is correct, I just wonder why. ---
**Author:** ![Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/958977/32.png) [@Psycho](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Psycho)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/57 "2025-07-11T01:22:24Z")
That’s true, but historically participation in boxing is orders of magnitude higher than MMA - even ignoring casual training. ---
**Author:** ![billytully](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/billytully/32/394962_2.png) [@billytully](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/billytully)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/58 "2025-07-11T02:31:07Z")
Many areas used to have a 3 knockdown rule. If a fighter was dropped 3 times the fight was over via a TKO. But, that’s not the case anymore. But it’s rare that a referee will allow more than 3 knockdowns in a round. Once in a while if the knockdowns are quick flash knockdowns with the fighter not being hurt too badly, a ref might not stop it even after 4 knockdowns, but it’s very rare. ---
**Author:** ![Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/burner2274/32/4890_2.png) [@Burner2274](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/Burner2274)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/59 "2025-07-11T03:09:52Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/11pBCi_0T8w/hqdefault.jpg "Fights of the Decade: Marquez vs. Pacquiao I (HBO Boxing)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11pBCi_0T8w) Pacquiao knocked JMM 3 times in round one but the 3 rule wasn’t in effect ---
**Author:** ![dojostormer](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/dojostormer/32/2893_2.png) [@dojostormer](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/dojostormer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/60 "2025-07-11T11:46:24Z")
Sugar Shane Mosley is also punchy as fuck. ---
**Author:** ![TimDuncan](https://forum.theonlyground.com/user_avatar/forum.theonlyground.com/timduncan/32/397147_2.png) [@TimDuncan](https://forum.theonlyground.com/u/TimDuncan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467/61 "2025-07-11T19:02:39Z")
Nam beat up my friend in MMA. I hated him for that but I liked the dude other than that. I wish fighter managed their money better and stopped fighting before their brains got mushed [Previous page](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.theonlyground.com/t/brain-damage-documentary-new-nam-phan/36467.md?page=4)