Dark Side Of Nature

@Megladong

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Definition of taking one for the team.

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Thank you. But my God what was awful. Wished I wouldn’t have watched it. :frowning:

If that bothers you watch wild dogs hunts. They run the animal until it collapses from exhaustion then they start eating it alive from the ass first

Canines=demons

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Definitely a horrible way to go out poor thing…

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You need context here, those feral pigs are devastating, it’s open season. Feeding a native alligator in the process is a bonus.

If it was a native species I’d agree with you

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Europeans have weird ideas about animals in the wild. Everything dies a horrific death, it’s either eaten or it starves or slowly rots from a disease. Nothing wrong with them baiting the invasive wild hog to be eaten by the gator. I’m glad they did. The video was interesting to watch once

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Plenty of animals naturally expire in nature due to old age which if given a choice they would probably prefer instead of having their flesh ripped off and bones broken dying in absolute agony.

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My wife maintains a bunch of bird feeders in our backyard. We live in town.

A pair of mallard ducks have been coming every day for months. The male had a broken leg, and we’ve watched it slowly heal.

A few minutes ago they came dropping into the yard, but a hawk was right on top of them in the air. I’m sort of worried I won’t be seeing it again.

Nature is a cruel bitch.

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What do you mean ā€œold ageā€?

What specifically kills them?

The telomeres in their chromosomes shorten and their cells slowly lose the ability to retain water leading to cellular disfunction and eventually a breakdown in the entire organism which leads to death.

What kills animals in zoos who are well fed and watered with no predators to worry about if it isn’t old age?

Heart attacks or cancer (you don’t want to die of cancer without modern painkillers, I’d rather be eaten by a gator)usually if I had to guess but I’m not a vet. No animals die from being so old they get heart attacks or cancer in the wild, I assure you. Something eats them long before that

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Heart attacks are found much more in elderly humans than animals.

Also I don’t get your point given the choice an animal would prefer to live than have it’s flesh torn off it’s bones by an Alligator.

Nothing gets to choose to live. We all die

Right but given the choice most people and animals don’t want to die prematurely.

Your logic seems to be that if you are going to die anyway what is wrong with dying now for our entertainment?

Assuming you do not apply this logic to humans right?

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Of course not. Why would I apply that to humans?

This is where we obviously differ…

I value all animal life whereas you regard them as unimportant and undeserving of compassion, kindness and empathy.

Like I said before we are unlikely to ever change each others minds on this so probably not much point continuing.

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Unless you’re a vegan your empathy is inconsistently applied

I see it differently in that we should only kill animals for our own survival as nature clearly intended.

That’s very different from getting off on the needless suffering of animals when it’s completely unnecessary.

The alligator ate that hog instead of a deer or turtle. Good