Assuming at LW, who wins?
- Ilia Topuria
- BJ Penn
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B.J. In his prime because he was well rounded and less predictable… if it goes more than three rounds. If it’s under three, it probably went Topuria’s way.
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If Penn doesn’t gas out I think he wins. Some favoritism could be at play with my decision though. Not a Topuria fan.
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Ilia wins this every time and I love BJ and hate Topuria, lol
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Ehh I dunno. Maybe. Its also a weight class up from where Topuria fights. Penn was at the top at LW and WW.
I’d love to believe. BJ was probably on some horse meat during his 170 days and ended up at 45/55 at the end.
Topuria has something you can’t teach. It’s annoying as fuck to cheer against him because any exchange can be lights out.
He’s actually a pretty good grappler too, just doesn’t have to show it with that power he carries.
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Love bj penn but topuria is an evolved version with serious power
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Young BJ ate strikes from Machida so I can’t pick against him based on a FW’s power just yet.
50/50 fight
Bj has a better jab, iron chin, difficult to take down
Topuria- power hand, good defense
3 rounds - topuria
5 round championship fight - bj penn
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Would Topuria do anything against Machida at heavyweight? Would be beat a juiced to the gills Matt Hughes twice? Would he beat the shit out of GSP?
Penn’s candle burned too quickly like a lot of fighters, but there was a window of time that guys like Topuria wouldn’t have a single chance in hell, and then there were times where Penn would lose handily.
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Classic UG poll. My heart says BJ, my mind Topuria.
Who would you bet your house on if you had to?
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BJ really did nothing against Machida either besides not get finished. His only real offense was a bit of control after a Machida slip. That was also a veeeery green Machida.
Hughes, yes. Topuria would KTFO him. His striking was way too bad.
In any case, BJ was a generational talent and a top fighter in any era IF we’re talking about the disciplined and motivated version. That guy showed up half the time and didn’t the other half.
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Machida didn’t do anything to him. He would have knocked Topuria dead.
Also lol at this take. It was actually Machida’s SIXTH fight, and he had already KO’d Rich Franklin and beat the shit out of Stephan Bonnar, And beaten 2 top K1 guys by stoppage. He couldn’t do a thing to Penn. He stopped a 6’4 LHW that Jones couldn’t put away, smashed the future 185 champ, later became the 205 champ himself,
And couldn’t do anything to Penn. Topuria would have died.
You’re a complete fucking noob if you think
Topuria is KOing Hughes. He would take that Spanish Gen z down and fucking obliterate him. You’re talking one of the top 170ers ever against a Johnny come lately 145er.
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Ilia sparring vs Kamaru, seems like Kamaru was taking it easy.
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So it went from implying Penn did something to Machida to “Machida couldn’t do a thing to Penn” 
It doesn’t matter how many fights he had. You visibly see he was nowhere close to the level he eventually reached, despite being a grizzled veteran of 6 whole fights.
What a delusional, drooling retard take.
Machida vs Penn was lackluster at best. Y’all making it sound like he went against Mark Hunt
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Let’s remember Penn got absolutely slaughtered by Frankie Edgar on the feet while we’re giving him a chance here rofl.
Penn was a great striker compared to bad strikers like Diego and Hughes. Topuria is a great striker compared to great strikers like Max Holloway.
Could Penn win on the ground? Maybe, but he never had the cardio to grapple for more than a round so probably not.
Penn had the skills to be very good in this era but anything else is retard, blinded by nostalgia talk. He’d probably be a solid top 10 but definitely not the dominant champ that he was in the era of Joe “Daddy” Stevenson being a top contender.
People like GSP and Anderson Silva, on the other hand, would still be dominant champs in this era. Penn was a level or two below that level.
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Yes, how retarded that the guy who KO’d rich fucking Franklin and Stephan Bonnar couldn’t do shit with BJ Penn somehow means nothing because Machida wasn’t the 205 champ.
I’ve seen retarded posts before, but yours belongs on the Alta forum. I am embarrassed for you.
Lacklustre is irrelevant and he may as well be Mark Hunt compared to any featherweight.
Machida landed a jumping stomp to BJ’s head.
At one point they got into an exchange where BJ walked through Machida’s shots and backed him up with his own.
Topuria is a better striker than Machida was. I still believe he’s less likely to hurt BJ than Machida was.
And Randy Couture, Vitor Belfort, Chael Sonnen, Mark Munoz, Ryan Bader, Thiago Silva, Rashad, etc.
I know he had improved by then but the power was always there beyond what exists at 145.