Sorry buddy I misunderstood. I was throwing out ideas for the fellas who train but maybe wanted new stuff.
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Post ideas in the gun club thread. We’d all enjoy running new drills
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I was just warning him as he was working through the drills on the thread, that they’re just foundation building drills.
I believe Surgeon is a little past that…
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Where’s the door?
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No door, no likes god damn it. We have rules around here donny.
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I’ll post the next drill tomorrow, gotta work tonight.
While I’m thinking about it I just wanted to post some thoughts out loud, particularly for something I’ve experienced in the shooting world.
I’m a big-time researcher and always hunger for more knowledge on a subject. As a life-long student of shooting we are living in a golden age of available information. Some of which I try to sift here and provide for y’all.
The downfall is that so much content created for the internet is meant to be “flashy” or attention capturing.
As such it’s more fun to watch a Grandmaster-class shooter run a stage than it is to watch a 30-minute lecture on the fundamentals of grip.
Which one makes you a better shooter?
I wanted to use that topic to bring up the point of expectations in the defensive handgun world.
It is easy to compare yourself to a GM or Master-class shooter and get dejected. However in my opinion, this is where we see the divergence of shooting “games” and training for defense. (Or offense…but my lawyer has advised me against saying that…)
GM/M class shooters can clean a stage in seconds. But there are two major faults to that approach in a social engagement.
- Accountability of rounds. Sending a wall of lead is a good way to find yourself in a criminal, or civil lawsuit.
- Simply put…too fast to see effects on target.
For the second point I mean that the person you are engaging should be hit on a “timer” (lung, femoral, jugular) or switch (brain, brain stem, heart, spine) before moving on to the next target.
If I put 3 rounds in 3 people in 1.5 seconds but get killed, I didn’t win that gunfight.
So my ultimate point is it’s better to shoot just a tad slower, think A or B Class, and get your hits and win the fight with throttle control instead of all gas no brake.
Here is a good video difference of the differences in class shooters. Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZ-KMaQECI&t=784s
Worth the watch to further explain my point. Train for accuracy first. Build speed through repetition second.
I guarantee in a social engagement you’re going to be shooting as fast as you possibly can.
I also blame John Wick movies for this phenomenon.
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For sure. Main reason I am an advocate for the anchor round but I think from a legal standpoint that has to be part of one engagement set-piece. Can’t go around Bernie Goetzing people.
Plus if your attackers are dead, there’s only one side of the story and that’s that you were “in terrible fear for your life, overwhelmed by the threat of death.”
In fact I’d probably try to shit my pants before the cops show up.
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Finally ran June’s. Took me 4 tries. Still not confident with using the backplate. I turn into a nervous nelly. I think because I checked it with the dot and the dot was showing way high. Didn’t want to send a round over my backstop. The circles were all 1 run.
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To clarify the follow up shot is sighted
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Ah fuck. There I go making things harder on myself again. Lol
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Drill: Retention and Contact Shooting
Gun: Concealed Carry Weapon
Distance: 1m
Round Count: As many as necessary to feel comfortable.
I recognize that this month’s drill won’t be shootable by everyone without special planning. Best to be shot on a private range, without a Fudd RSO around.
In keeping with the trend of defensive pistol shooting, I’m going to talk about taking shots from retention, or in actual contact of the target. This would be in arms’ length of your assailant, and possibly in a fight for control over the gun.
There are many videos available on drawing one-handed, so I won’t cover that. I draw by grabbing the front hem of my shirt with my strong hand, and basically lifting to chest height and rotating back, before releasing and pushing down to draw.
Additionally, as you’re drawing, your support hand needs to close in to a guard position. Better to be stabbed in the forearm, than the neck.
I know in Collateral, Tom Cruise throws a block/punch, but unless you have Tyson core strength you probably won’t have too much power behind that…
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The next step after the draw is where we position the gun.
There’s two schools of thought, and I will show you what I was trained on first, then what I prefer second.
The way that I was trained, from the retention draw, the gun comes out and indexes on the hip.
The idea is that you use your hip to drive the gun left or right, and to a small extent up and down.
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The second technique is one I’ve learned recently, and I prefer.
The gun comes out and indexes center axis of the body, underneath the head.
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Additionally this is why I have a Crimson Trace grip laser on my CCW.
I know there’s lots of thoughts about visible lasers, but to me it makes sense to include on a CCW.
Of note, the vis laser is basically worthless in bright daylight, and if you’re going to train with a laser, it’s important to get the reps in and train your eye to follow the sights, not the laser, nor look to the laser for feedback.
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Final thought with video to follow.
Contact shooting. Legitimately you’re in a wrestle fuck with someone over control of your gun.
This is something I’d never trained on before, until I was able to get a class in 2014 from a guy that is a legend in my professional community. He has, and I’ve seen it, a spreadsheet documenting all the people he has shot in combat, and all the factors involved. Down to the level of detail of what boots he was wearing.
It’s kinda sinister, but also very believable because we aren’t talking about 20, 40, 60 people. It’s 7 engagements.
So he teaches a full-kit combatives class and the defining point is when he was grappling with someone and pulled his pistol out to fire. Pressed it up against the guy and it wouldn’t fire. Tried again, same result. Tried again, same result.
He later figured out that due to adrenaline and strength he was pushing the pistol out of battery.
So if you find yourself making a contact shot, in a high stress/adrenaline situation, place your thumb over the backplate and shoot.
Remember though, the gun won’t eject, it must be manually cycled.
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Video:
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