Prime Vitor vs Pride Frank Shamrock

I got Vitor via flurry. Frank is smart and I would favor him in the later rounds. One think I think could be Franks weakness is Vitors BJJ. Even though Vitor hardly used it I think he could exploit Franks weakness to BJJ. Renzo owned frank with his BJJ.

  • Vitor
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Is TRTitor or 1997 Vitor?

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TRT Vitor smokes Frank of that era. What about Vitor in Pride or early ufc?

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Frank had supreme confidence in himself while Vitor could be rattled.

The Frank that beat Tito could beat a young Vitor, imo.

But, Vitor is a natural 205’er and Frank is a MW.

Franks mindset and confidence was his biggest weapon and you saw what Sak did to Vitor and I felt Sak was a MW.

I’d much rather see Sak vs. Frank but, when I asked Big John about the match up, he said Sak would win no doubt.

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Strong mind against weak mind. I have Frank Shamrock by attrition.

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Frank wins this.

Bas didn’t KO him outside of the cut stoppage, and Vitor could ONLY flurry and win early in that time period, which didn’t work on the fighters who were more methodical, like Couture and Sakuraba etc.

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Yup, Frank out cardio’d a much bigger Tito for the win.
Vitor’s only hope would have been the same sort of running flurry he hit Wand with.
Beyond that, Frank would have dragged him into deep waters and took him to school.

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I picked vitor

But im counting TRT vitor as prime.

As vitor has alllwwwaaayyss been on gear.

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Pre Couture Vitor might have stood a chance by tko early. Funny thing is post PrideFC Vitor would blitz the shit out of Frank but anytime in the middle, esp prime Frank during his UFC run would eat the blitz and outwork Vitor. Frank had a damn good chin.

RIP Frank

If Frank survived round 1, he’d have a good shot.

Frank, no question.

Vitor was a one trick pony even at his best. Granted, it was a REALLY GODDAMNED DEVASTATING trick :slight_smile:

But Frank’s best weapon was not his striking, not his grappling, not even his cardio - it was his game planning. He and Mo built game plans tailored to each foe back in the day when folks tended to just hop in and “do their best.”

Frank and Mo would have drilled defense on the flurry and kicks and would have dragged Vitor into deep water and punished him, much like Couture did.

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ChatGPT:

Prime Vitor Belfort vs. Prime Frank Shamrock is an interesting stylistic clash. Vitor had explosive hand speed, knockout power, and a solid BJJ background, while Frank was one of the earliest well-rounded fighters with great cardio, submissions, and game planning.

Key Factors:

  • Striking: Vitor had far superior boxing and would have a major edge in early exchanges.
  • Wrestling & Grappling: Frank was better at mixing in takedowns and submissions but wasn’t an elite wrestler.
  • Cardio: Huge edge for Frank. Vitor was dangerous in the first round but had a history of fading.
  • Fight IQ & Strategy: Frank was one of the best strategists of his time, while Vitor could be erratic.

Likely Breakdown Over 1,000 Fights:

  • Vitor wins ~600-650 times by early KO/TKO, overwhelming Frank before he can implement a game plan.
  • Frank wins ~350-400 times by weathering the storm, taking the fight into deep waters, and finishing with a submission or TKO.
  • Small number of decisions going both ways in longer fights.

Conclusion:

Prime Vitor takes most of the early finishes, but if Frank survived the first two minutes, he’d have a strong chance of turning the tide. I’d say Vitor wins about 60-65% of the time due to his explosiveness, but Frank’s superior cardio and adaptability make it competitive.

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ChatGPT play by play:

Prime Vitor Belfort vs. Prime Frank Shamrock – Play-by-Play

(Assuming a Pride FC-style ring with no cage, 10-minute first round, 5-minute second and third rounds)


Round 1
(0:00) – Both fighters meet in the center, touching gloves lightly. Frank Shamrock takes a cautious stance, bouncing on his toes, while Vitor Belfort comes forward aggressively, hands high, chin tucked.

(0:10) – Vitor feints a jab and explodes with a left-right combination, forcing Frank to circle away. Shamrock stays composed, keeping his distance with feints and light kicks.

(0:20) – Vitor lunges in with a flurry of punches! A four-punch blitz lands on Shamrock’s high guard, pushing him toward the ropes. Shamrock ducks under a left hook and clinches up to slow down the pace.

(0:30) – Frank attempts a body lock takedown, but Vitor’s raw strength keeps him upright. Vitor lands a short knee to the body before Shamrock disengages and resets in the center.

(1:00) – Vitor feints a straight left, then rips a huge right hook! It glances off Shamrock’s temple, making him wobble slightly. Vitor senses it and rushes in with another flurry!

(1:10) – Frank covers up, absorbing heavy punches. A left uppercut sneaks through, snapping Shamrock’s head back! He shoots for a desperation takedown—Vitor sprawls and lands hammerfists to the side of the head.

(1:30) – Shamrock rolls to guard, trying to control Vitor’s posture. Vitor postures up and rains down hard punches, but Frank is defending intelligently, tying up Vitor’s arms.

(2:00) – Shamrock kicks off the hips and scrambles to his feet! He looks shaken but composed. Vitor smiles and walks him down, bouncing lightly.

(2:30) – Frank throws a body kick, but Vitor counters with a lightning-fast straight left that lands clean! Shamrock stumbles, and Vitor explodes again with a brutal flurry—left, right, left, right!

(2:45) – Shamrock collapses against the ropes, covering up! Vitor swarms, unloading shots until the referee jumps in!


Winner: Vitor Belfort by TKO (Round 1, 2:50)

  • Fight Summary: Shamrock tried to survive the early storm but couldn’t fully recover after Vitor’s hand speed overwhelmed him. Vitor’s explosiveness proved too much in the opening round.
  • Potential Adjustment for Shamrock: In a rematch, he’d likely use more movement, leg kicks, and clinch work early to avoid engaging in a firefight.
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Vitor has a Bowie knife and Frank has two nunchucks:

Prime Vitor Belfort (Bowie Knife) vs. Prime Frank Shamrock (Two Nunchucks) – Fight Simulation

(Assuming a no-rules, open arena fight with no time limits.)


Fight Start:
Both fighters stand across from each other, weapons in hand. Vitor grips his Bowie knife in a reverse grip, blade facing outward. Frank twirls the nunchucks rapidly, testing his range and dexterity.

(0:00 - 0:10)
Frank takes a wide karate stance, keeping his distance, swinging the nunchucks in tight, controlled arcs. Vitor crouches slightly, blade up, stalking forward with measured footwork.

(0:15 - 0:30)
Frank feints forward and cracks a nunchuck toward Vitor’s lead hand. Vitor jerks back but quickly lunges in, slashing toward Frank’s ribs! Shamrock barely spins out of range, the knife grazing his torso but not cutting deep.

(0:35 - 0:50)
Frank whips the nunchucks downward, striking Vitor’s forearm! Vitor grits his teeth and lunges forward aggressively, closing the gap. Shamrock backpedals, keeping the second nunchuck swinging at head level as a deterrent.

(0:55 - 1:10)
Vitor feints left and suddenly rushes forward at full speed! He eats a glancing nunchuck shot to the shoulder but drives the knife into Frank’s midsection! Shamrock grunts in pain, but before Vitor can drive it deeper, he smashes a nunchuck into Vitor’s temple!

(1:15 - 1:30)
Vitor stumbles back, blood dripping from his head, but Frank clutches his side where the blade entered. Shamrock shakes his head, clearly woozy, while Vitor regains his stance, knife still ready.

(1:35 - 1:50)
Frank tries to maintain distance, circling while keeping one nunchuck spinning. Vitor, sensing blood, lunges again, slashing at Frank’s arm! The nunchuck swings back but only glances off Vitor’s bicep.

(2:00 - 2:20)
Vitor pushes forward and buries the knife into Frank’s chest! Shamrock gasps, trying to slam the nunchucks down in a last-ditch counter—but his strength fades.

(2:30)
Frank drops to his knees, trying to breathe, but the damage is too much. Vitor pulls the knife out and steps back as Shamrock collapses forward.


Winner: Vitor Belfort via Fatal Stabbing (2:30)

  • Key Factors:
    • Knife vs. Nunchucks Advantage: While nunchucks allow reach, they lack the stopping power of a single well-placed blade strike.
    • Vitor’s Blitz: Frank landed some clean shots, but Vitor’s explosiveness let him close the gap quickly, negating the nunchucks’ range advantage.
    • Fatal Outcome: Frank dealt some damage, but the moment Vitor landed the knife to the torso, it was over.

How Frank Could Have Won:

  • More lateral movement to keep Vitor at bay.
  • Using one nunchuck defensively while attacking with the other.
  • Targeting Vitor’s hand/wrist early to disarm him.

Final Verdict: Vitor wins 850 out of 1000 times.
Frank’s best chances come from precise, repeated strikes before Vitor can close in, but once Vitor gets inside, the knife is too lethal.

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How many Vitors to beat a T-Rex?:

If we’re talking about prime, peak TRT Vitor Belfort vs. a full-grown Tyrannosaurus rex, we need to break this down scientifically.

T-Rex Stats

  • Height: ~15-20 feet
  • Length: ~40 feet
  • Weight: ~9-15 tons
  • Bite Force: 8,000+ lbs per square inch
  • Speed: ~17-25 mph
  • Intelligence: About as smart as a crocodile
  • Weaponry: Bone-crushing jaws, massive teeth, thick tail

Vitor Belfort Stats (TRT Version)

  • Height: 6’0"
  • Weight: ~205 lbs (light heavyweight prime)
  • Speed: Very fast for a human, insane hand speed
  • Striking Power: Capable of knocking out a human with one punch
  • Intelligence: Battle-tested, but… no experience with dinosaurs
  • Weaponry: Fists, knees, kicks, possibly a Bowie knife if allowed

How Many Vitors to Kill a T-Rex?

  1. One Vitor?

    • No chance. One prime Vitor gets eaten instantly. Maybe he lands a clean spinning heel kick to the T-Rex’s shin, but the fight ends in under 5 seconds.
  2. 10 Vitors?

    • Still hopeless. Even if they swarm, the T-Rex just stomps or swings its tail and annihilates them.
  3. 100 Vitors?

    • Now we have something. If all 100 TRT-enhanced Vitors attack at once, swarming from all angles, a few might get onto its back and start gouging eyes. But still, the T-Rex’s tail swings and bites take out 10-20 per chomp. This is a low-percentage win for Team Vitor unless they have weapons.
  4. 500 Vitors?

    • This is where it gets interesting. 500 TRT Belforts means endless blitz attacks from all angles. They could aim for weak spots like the eyes, throat, and joints. If they have sharp weapons (knives, spears), they could bring it down with enough concentrated effort. Losses would be catastrophic (probably 300+ casualties), but they could overwhelm and suffocate the T-Rex by sheer numbers.
  5. 1,000 Vitors?

    • At this point, it’s a massacre… for the T-Rex.
    • 100 Vitors swarm the legs, taking out balance.
    • 200 climb onto its back, stabbing at the eyes and neck.
    • The rest just keep rushing in, no fear, all aggression.
    • Eventually, the T-Rex collapses from exhaustion, wounds, and sheer numbers. It would take massive losses, but the Vitors win.

Final Answer:

  • 500 Vitors = Possible win, high casualties
  • 1,000 Vitors = Overwhelming victory for Team Vitor

However, if the T-Rex is allowed to run and not just fight head-on, it could survive indefinitely. The only way Vitors win is through relentless pressure and sacrificing themselves for the team.

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Are you positive Frank has always been natty?

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jurassic park dinosaur GIF

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T. rex has puny arms. Vitor via armbar

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Never was. Certainly not in his hey day. Not a chance in fucking hell.

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