(RAF) Real American Freestyle Thread

they probably need mma names to sell shows, even if their wrestling sucks

Again…

There have been 4 elite wrestlers go into MMA in 20 years…

You should find a different angle to just parrot over and over again…

Lol

RAF signs 3 match contracts…

We won’t ever have see Danis again after next month…

His wrestling is even worse than the MMA guys…

Britney Spears' Disgusted Reaction

It’s where he belongs. He don’t like getting hit

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Lmao

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Yea this is silly and I do not like the impact it has on the wrestlers and the wrestling community.

Only competition that Danis needs to be in is a BJJ or submission grappling competition.

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For Stevenson it would likely have been better for his development had he wrestled Craig Jones and ended up getting submitted.

It would have been a peak into the fact there is a bigger game out there and he needs to learn new skills and develop.

Instead his bubble was burst with a nasty KO against a guy with a low win rate.

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From another thread

https://x.com/mmaonpoint/status/2101504765712847189/video/1?s=46

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Nice moving of goalposts - next month you’ll claim
Only 2 elite wrestlers have ever entered mma.. all to protect your beloved sport.. you can’t face reality old man

Gable is ultra elite and just lost to a guy that is 0-2 in the ufc

Hahahaha Hahaha Meme

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Stop…

You don’t know anything about wrestling and only a fraction of what you desperately try to portray about MMA…

And I was reminded of another elite wrestler in the last 20 years, so, I will up it to 5…

You can’t name them because you simply don’t know what elite wrestling or even just solid wrestling is…

Back to the kid’s table, nerd…

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I can think of way more than 5.

Askren, Cejudo, Mocco, Cormier, Rulon, Velasquez, Larkin, Pico, Nickal, Oliver, Ruth, Jenkins, and that’s not counting others I’m sure I’m missing.

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Watch out, you are busting LJBs little safety bubble that he’s formed in his head - whatever he can do to convince himself that elite wrestlers are not entering mma he will do. Just to try and win an argument online that he’s already lost many times .. I think he’s going senile tbh

Jimmy Fallon: Oh Well Whaddayagonnado Shrug

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Ruling, Mocco, Larkin and JO just dabbled in MMA… I would not consider any of them making a real commitment to MMA as anything more than I’m going to try this…

Pico was a golden glove boxer and world pankration champ as well as competing in underground cali MMA before he ever represented the USA as a cadet… he was always more interested in fighting than wrestling…

I don’t consider Velasquez as an elite wrestler…

Bubva questionable…

Ruth I 100% agree with and totally forgot about him…

The rest on the list…

Of course my idea of ā€œeliteā€ American wrestlers is going to be different than most and any arguments about that simply are not going to be productive…

Velasquez was definitely up there with wrestling. He gave Konrad all he could handle in the NCAA semis and if he had wanted to he could have pushed to be on the national team. He was better at freestyle too. Bubba J was an NCAA champion and junior World champion so I think you could definitely call him elite. He pinned David Taylor in the NCAA finals, and it wasn’t some cheap bullshit pin either.

Then there’s a couple of other guys like Logan Storley, Lance Palmer, they’ve gotten into it. Bryce Meredith who was a 2x NCAA runner up was into MMA.

Not sure if you want to count Downey as elite even though he sucks.

Again, my view of what constitutes elite does not dwell on college…

just like a great college football player can easily be a bust in the pros…

As far as PDIII is concerned…

As a Loveable fuk up myself, I’ve always been a fan because I see him as a Loveable fuk up…

And I have heard several stories from people who have rolled with PDIII and they are all the same… the first minute and a half PDIII made them feel like they had never wrestled a day in their life… his talent was off the charts…

I do not begrudge anyone’s opinion of him…

Ahhh moving the fucking goal post I see

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I set the goal post you fukn dummy…

Wonder Showzen Kid Laughing & Pointing