Yes.
Yes she was.
Yes.
Yes she was.
It was a friendly grappling match. Nothing serious.
If they had fought under MMA rules, what makes you think Rickson would lie there or even allow Shultz to get him in the cradle position? You don’t think Rickson would have been aware of that?
Ok ?. .
my grandfather crashed into a guy. then told me kick the guys ass for being in my way.
nice people
Because he’s an olympic wrestler stud maybe?
It makes me sick that Ricksons greatness will eventually be unable to be defended anymore because there is nobody left to tell the truth.
There are people around today who have rolled with him and continue to roll today, even with top level guys. Everyone on earth who ever rolled with him said his jiu jitsu is without compare. We are talking at a level exceeding the greatness of Jordan or Ali but just in more esoteric discipline.
Detractors will claim a modern purple belt would defeat him, but there are people alive right now that train with modern purple belts and have trained with Rickson. They are the only ones on Earth who can attest to his greatness. One day they will be gone and there will be nothing but haters left.
Fine, his MMA was a bunch of fights against cans, I agree. But I have rolled with a few guys that have experienced his jiu jitsu, and there has never been anyone that good, and there has never been anyone even close.
You know who says shit like that? People that think jiu jitsu is just a set of techniques. So since Rickson hasn’t trained and “memorized” the defenses to modern attacks, that he would fall victim to them. They don’t understand that true mastery of jiu jitsu transcends “techniques”.
Ok ?. .
Rorion has a reasonably high IQ and used it.
It’s like going back in time at least a decade plus. These topics have been discussed so many times over the years…sometimes the threads would turn into World War 3, people would get pissed and lose their minds. ![]()
Oh yeah, Rickson who never fought anyone worth a shit in mma could just wave his magic wand and keep Mark Fucking Schultz from putting him in a cradle.
And btw, you don’t get out of a cradle… perhaps you don’t understand the hold Rickson was in.
He thinks Dan Severn would have defeated Royce Gracie if they had fought in UFC 5 “super fight” LMAO. This guy’s delusional.
Let me settle the 25yo Rickson vs Gordon Ryan question
In 1999 the oil Sheiks of ADCC couldn’t afford Rickson’s asking price to do a Superfight against Mario Sperry
You read that right
As for Rickson vs Mark Schultz
In 1 month of training Mark Schultz was even with Pedro Sauer BB at practice at 3 months he was submitting all of them.
Zero training Mark Schultz was submitted 2x in 45 minutes by the “greatest BJJ practitioner to walk the earth”
2x in 1 hour with zero training
Same it’s on my Amazon wish list of books to buy.
I just checked my library… they don’t have it. Think I will just get a copy from ebay.
Detractors will claim a modern purple belt would defeat him, but there are people alive right now that train with modern purple belts and have trained with Rickson. They are the only ones on Earth who can attest to his greatness. One day they will be gone and there will be nothing but haters left.
I’ve never heard anyone say that or anything remotely close to it.
Ive heard he was levels above everyone else at BJJ.
I don’t question if a purple belt could beat him. But rather could todays top competitors like Gordon Ryan, etc.
As far as his MMA accomplishments, that is what everyone who questions him questions him on.
Throw in the fact that the Gracie’s are known story telling egomaniacs and his 500 and 0 stories sound like bullshit.
Who did he beat up? Guys he already knew he would beat? Or did he ever challenge himself and fight guys that people believed would beat him?
Now let’s talk not modern BJJ guys beating him but modern MMA fighters and it’s obvious he wouldn’t even be top 10 in his weight division.
One of the refs at CJI said it in an interview. Fortunately, the interview was with Jocko, who trained with Rickson as well as top level modern competitors of today, and of the intermediary period, like Dean Lister (who is his primary training partner). He attested to Rickson’s exceptional abilities. Unfortunately, Jocko is hesitant to respond adamantly with people with whom he disagrees because that is his communication style. I know Jocko believes in Rickson’s near mythical skill level (he even wrote the forward to his autobiography), but he didn’t say “you fucking idiot, I rolled with him, it’s unbelievable”. But one day, Jocko and others will be gone, and the instinct to tear down idols will overcome all resistance. In my lifetime, clowns with shitty jiu jitsu will be telling me that Rickson wasn’t all that good, and there will be no credible way to debunk them because he doesn’t have any high profile wins to show them. But everyone who ever touched the man on the mats knows exactly what’s up.
Id say that’s Rickson’s fault for not competing more. And not competing against the best.
Seems to me he had all the pressure of being the family champion and was afraid to lose
Id say that’s Rickson’s fault for not competing more. And not competing against the best.
Seems to me he had all the pressure of being the family champion and was afraid to lose
Just out of curiosity - who in the 80s and early 90s (his athletic prime) would have been the challenge to prove himself? He had two matches against Rei Zulu which were pretty legendary. I don’t even know the names of any great fighters from the period. If he could have convinced Karelin to fight him Vale Tudo, I guess that would have been something.
That’s before my time. Perhaps someone else can chime in.