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Yass queen 
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I favor abortion simply because it results in less mouth breathers. I don’t give two shits about morality or religious issues.
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It doesn’t…and I think the current state of society proves it.
It makes “mouth breathers” and others much worse
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It destroys society by allowing women to be whores and find a way out of all responsibility. Religion aside, the question is, should women be allowed to kill their babies? Yes or No.
But I too dont want more welfare recipient criminals.
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In absolute terms it unequivocally reduces mouth breathers. Our current state IS bad, my point is that it would be worse.
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I can definitely see that argument. The people behind Planned Parenthood did too. They weren’t about women’s rights. They were about having less black babies.
Abortion + Welfare + divorce courts rewarding women money for leaving men have largely destroyed decency and the family unit in our society.
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Sadly a lot of the young ones that self-select in to it are the ones that would produce non-mouth breathers and do it because of career, school or monetary considerations.
Then they become absolute lunatics in their 30s.
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Abortion rights don’t make them whores, it’s the nature of a whore to be a whore.
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Less LIFETIME criminal welfare recipients is what it’s all about. It’s low hanging fruit but the right to an abortion is undeniably a good thing.
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Taking away repercussions for actions enabled cultural whoredom.
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Disagree. We’ve allowed women to be irresponsible, they in turn teach their children (cause they’re still having kids and not aborting all) that irresponsibly is ok…the results have shown that creates a society of irresponsible dumb fucks and then it seeps into all other aspects
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And it backfired…it just made it worse.
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Agreed
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I appreciate all of your opposing views, but we shall remain on opposite sides of this issue. You rarely see people changing their position.
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I am an atheist but I wouldn’t mind some old testament judgment.
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100%. I know several girls, friends and family that have had abortions. 2 confided that to me, telling me they felt like a piece of shit for it and would never do it again.
Those who are proud of having abortions have embraced evil. Not in the religious sense. In the practical sense.
College girls regularly fuck countless guys in america and have the babies aborted instead of starting a family.
Combined with feminism it leads to women sold a false bill that they need to be “Succesful” and “career focused” rather than wanting to be a mother.
Not sure if we have any expats on the board yet, but if you talk to girls in the Philippines for example, their dream is to get married, and have kids and have a happy home.
American girls want conflicting things. Relations, romantic love (which expires without children typically), to not be told what to do, to be able to party, to have new love again, and so the cycle continues.
This isnt all, but its reflective of the cultural norms in my observation
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I did, I used to believe the same argument you’re making, cause you would think it makes sense. Then I got really interested in psychology and I rethought a lot of things and a lot of times things aren’t like they seem when you really dive into it
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I changed mine. I used to believe in “womens rights” and then I realized how fucking stupid that argument was.
I believe you have a logic based argument though. Although I think your logic in this case is flawed because it overlooks the societal repercussions.
But perhaps it does have merit as removing abortions from a society that already has feminist indoctrinated females making a majority of the society wont fix the culture.
Its the combination of abortions + feminism + acceptance of whoredom + destruction of the family (and subsidized by the government financial for doing so) that has led to what society is today.
Take away just the abortions and leave the rest and we just have more people in a fucked society. More child support, more welfare.
I’m on the fence now.
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Should be in the fascinating behavior thread.
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