Gracie vs Kimo UFC 3

I agree. He undoubtedly got the crap beat out of him his whole life by his entire family and constantly had dojo tough guys coming at him talking about fights to the death and trying to maim him. Weird way to grow up for sure.

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Say what?

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Ah yes, Keith and his testicle fetish. That dude beat more nuts than a warden in a 1960s psyche ward. Most of today’s fighters wouldn’t stand a chance with UFC 3 rules. I can think of a few who would probably be immune to it, but most wouldn’t be able to make it through one round IMO.

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He 100% knew

I heard somewhere that if they threw in the towel that meant he was gonna get paid for the 2nd fight. Not sure if it’s true.

Surprised you feel that way. I trained at Gracie Torrance when Royce was there and he always seemed like a laid back likable guy.

A lot of these modern sport fighters would have folded like a deck of cards at a rookie’s card table.

The “top sport BJJ” guys of today would have gotten ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DESTROYED.

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I don’t know Royce and it’s not fair for me to judge his personality on the limited interactions I’ve had with him. He seemed like a dick the few times I interacted with him, but anyone can come off that way if they had a fight with their wife, got jet lagged, had a fight with the host about the seminar fee or whatever. The point is, he’s a tough dude and his accomplishments definitely deserve respect.

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This is fair.

Never got to meet Royce myself, but I’ve known those who have, and heard stories on both ends of the spectrum.

People spend such a big part of their lives following someone who never heard of them.
When a relatively brief interaction doesn’t go the way they hoped, it shouldn’t necessarily define that “icon” to them.

Of course there are exceptions.

I have heard some pretty bad seminar stories, lol.
IMO, that’s a gig where you show up and play nice, even if it’s not your ideal situation.
(Weird outliers notwithstanding).

:100:

I met Royce once. I was a 15 year old white belt. He was quiet, but encouraging.

This was in 2000.

Now I’m a 40 year old white belt. (I took some time off……)

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Just as long as you are back at it, you’re doing it right

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This is why I love this place. Thanks for sharing. MM

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If I remember correctly. Kimo paid someone to do private lessons with Rickson before the match and brought what he learned back to Kimo to use against Royce. Unbeknownst to Rickson of course until he saw the private student in Kimo’s corner.

Who was in Kimo’s corner besides Joe Son?

How did Kimo know what he was up against when no one else did?

Guy’s name was Randy Ziegler. I might be wrong about when Rickson found out. It may have been prior to the bout. I believe I heard this from Chris Brennan at first year’s ago. I’m old so my old man brain mis remembers shit lol!

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Severn basically threw slaps at him

Even Dan said he never punched anyone before

Coleman would have been a different story

I’m a huge Coleman fan. But his Achilles heel was Royce’s total strongpoint. Coleman was high burn, fast twitch, hyper aggression. The Gracie’s strongest suit was devising a survival strategy against bigger, stronger, more athletic opponents. I always thought Kerr would have been a tougher fight for Royce but The Hammer was a much better fighter overall than Kerr.

A huge part off the world are Christian. Doesn’t mean they are always perfect. How’s it a money grab?