I’m starting to feel like older shit is higher quality

Never ate more than 2 double cheeseburgers at once. Never had a double quarter pounder and never had 2 big macs at once

I noticed this 20 years ago but I’m glad you have caught up

This is true sometimes with things like appliances. It is a race to the bottom bottom. For other things like cars it is not true. We are paying premium prices for vehicles that are built out of plastic.

BMW had leaked internal memos that stated why they put internal parts made out of plastic, so people would buy new cars faster. BMW would make something like a timing chain guide out of metal that would outlast the engine, but they don’t. They put plastic that is guaranteed to crack and cost the consumer thousands to fix, the whole engine can grenade if the timing jumps and the guy will have a totaled car

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Were you really 4 bills?

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The reason why I mention it is because it’s not just a profit motive. Any type of situation where you’re constraining resources will end up with same cycle.

Look at public housing for example it’s often the lowest spec housing on the market and every year it gets lower spec. No profit motive.

Look at communist countries the things they’re building are getting worse not better.

I’m not saying there isn’t fraud out there also happening in parallel. What you mentioned to me is fraud.

Good job losing the weight. What do you weight now, how do you lose the weight? You must feel great!

I think it is mostly fraud. Shitty airline service is a product of low fares. Putting plastic in engines is emblematic of companies with Matt Serra as their CEOs.

I also blame the government for being retarded and making laws that fuck us like th epa. The EPA is choking our engines with emissions and stupid shit like thin oils to get 1 mpg more at the cost of a grenading engine. My paint peeled off of my Toyota because of epa mandated water based paint. Lucky Toyota repainted it 12 years later for free! They are one of the few quality automakers left. Their truck engine sucks ass though

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Yep, until I was 23ish. Lost 160+ lbs in about 2 years. I was WIIIDE, I didn’t have a big gut, believe it or not. I was as well proportioned as you can be at that weight. My buddies would joke if I turned sideways, I disappear. I had the fat bouncers build, I looked like I could toss you over a car and I probably could. At 21 I was about 300lbs again but could throw a head kick. Probably could’ve killed a got with one who was 5’7 or shorter.

When I was 14 I weighed 300lbs. When I was 16 (5’10) I weighed a little less and could leg press 1,650 lbs. I was a mountain.

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Glad you lost the weight, it must feel really good to be lighter. Keep cutting down to 2 fiddy!

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I’m under 250lbs and have been for almost 20 years now (42 next week).

Guess who inspired me to finally lose weight? I’ll give you one hint: :chequered_flag:

@Jamie999

Do you guys remember the Boeing Whistleblowers that died?

I listened to an interview with that guy (or a friend or family member) I can’t remember the exact details.

But he was basically saying how Boeing in SC I believe it was was producing absolute shit, but the former military guy running that plant gave no fucks because it made him look better so Boeing tried to shut up and shut down all safety inspectors that didn’t go along with their products failing inspection.

Well, that guy is long dead and unless there’s more to the story now, the people that (maybe) killed him got away with it.

Mentioning fraud reminded me of that podcast.

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I had one of these beauties and I fucking loved it.

I was so poor at that time that I had to get my buddy to weld on a steel support on the rear passenger side to replace the shock that blew out and also had to drill out the ignition when I lost my keys in the middle of nowhere 5 hours away from home so it started with a flathead.

Had a lot of great times in that car.

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Yes I’m sure. You gotta find other ways to save money cause you sure can’t do it by purchasing necessary domestic products.

A long time ago there used to be only two options for most things. A cheaper one and more expensive one. The cheap one wouldn’t last as long as the other one but it would still last a long time.

Now there are so many choices it’s crazy. Think about something basic like socks. There’s generic and there are different brands. But basically, they are all socks, made out of mostly the same material with some variation. If you go to wal mart and buy their brand socks, let’s say they are $25 for 12 pairs (that’s a guess).

Sure that’s a damn good deal at just over $2 per pair, but I wouldn’t expect them to last for more than 2 years before they start developing tears and small holes. Some people might be okay with that but if you truly think about it, should we be able to buy socks that last 2 years or less? Fuck no. Socks should last upwards of 8-10 years, depending on what you are doing daily.

Now say we go up one tier to fruit of the loom. That might be $30-$32 for the same number of socks. Last 3-4 years. Go up a tier to Hanes or Hanes premium, we’re probably pushing $40 for the same number of socks. But that’s where I lean because the Hanes premium socks I get last me as long as I want them to. Which is several years, at the very least 5 years.

Now in this example (again I’m making up numbers but I feel the price is rising appropriately) I’m paying $40 dollars for 12 pairs of socks. The cheapest pack is $25. I now have to go up two tiers just to get what I feel is good quality. We all know what a quality sock feels like.

Now of course I can get the $25 ones but now I’m buying socks every two years. Then in four years I will have already spent $50, when if I bought the $40 ones, they would still be good for another couple of years.

In 2010 my wife & I got our first apartment and mom gave us her old washing machine. We bought our own dryer. By the time we got our first house in 2013, the dryer was having issues. We got it to work but in 2016, a couple of years after we bought the house we live in now, we had to buy a new one. The washing machine still worked this entire time, mind you, this was the same washing machine that was in the house I grew up in and we used the entire second half of my childhood. It had a small leak but lasted a long time, my mom probably bought it in 2000. We didn’t have to replace it until 2022. So the washer we had lasted 22 years, and the new “smart dryer” only lasted six. Then by 2020 the dryer we bought in 2016 already had issues, the heating element went bad. I had to take the entire dryer apart, and replace it. Had to replace a sensor too, and the lint trap. At this point it’s 10 years old so it has already lasted longer than the other one but it only took 4 years before something big went wrong.

The dishwasher we have was already in the house when we bought it and was installed in the late 90s. Works like a champ. We have a TV in the bedroom I bought in 2006 that works great now. Meanwhile we’ve been through 3 TVs in the living in that same time frame.

It’s not a question that quality is different. If you talk to somebody they’ll likely tell you stuff is so cheap and easily accessible now. Pair of headphones for 10 bucks. TV for 150. Blah blah. Mostly electronics. Of course back in the day there were absolutely zero pairs of headphones for 10 bucks. But the cheapest ones you could buy were much higher quality than the cheapest ones now. People probably only buy them in a pinch or at the airport.

Don’t even get me started on Amazon.

Perfect timing.

Less than a year ago we bought a shower head to replace our old one that we had for many years. It’s a standard 7 spray made by Delta. When we bought it, it came with the shower head, the hose, and the arm mount.

Just now I was taking a shower and the shower head fell and started spraying everywhere. Thinking it slipped out of the mount, I picked it up and tried to slide it back in. When I did that it fell again. I could barely see (wasn’t wearing my glasses) but when I squinted I could see the entire right side of the arm mount completely bent and hanging off the side. Then it fell off.

It was like 60 bucks for that shower head. It’s less than a year old. Now the arm mount is broken. And the shower head itself is already coming apart at the bottom (separate issue that’s been happening for a couple of months). Had to buy a new arm mount for 10 bucks and swap out the shower head from the boys bathroom (they don’t use it, they take baths).

Now I’m gonna end up spending between 30-40 for a new shower head. So add the arm mount, that adds up to $40-$50. Add $60 for the kit I bought less than a year ago, and that’s over 100 bucks just for a single working shower head, hose and arm mount. We don’t need anything fancy, just something that works.

This is just one example out of many. I’m sure plenty of others in this thread experience shit like this all the time.

You watch you mouth talk bad about Matt Serra

Agreed ts!

I bought a “genuine leather” belt at a top store a few years back. Same day I started wearing it teh seem’s were threading and the leather was massively worn down.

The “genuine leather” scam in the UK involves marketers using the technical term “genuine leather” to trick consumers into believing they are purchasing high-quality, durable goods. In reality, “genuine leather” is the lowest grade of real leather, made from leftover scraps bonded together and painted to look uniform, often cracking or peeling within a year.

I found a website online after which sold legit leather belts from an american tannery. Belt was cheap, besides postage. Still going strong now!

Do people not know how much electronics used to cost in today’s dollars? The first good tv I bought was $5000 in today’s dollars. The first good desktop pc I bought was more than that. Both fucking sucked ass compared to what you can get for $500 today.

You used to sneeze at a phone or get a drop of water on them and they were shot.

I went through multiple pairs of noise canceling buds that were around what AirPods cost today and are a million times better.

Many such examples.

There is CGI from the 90’s that looks better than the shit today.

Even old school special effects from some Star Wars movies looks more authentic in many cases.

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Whe they measure for inflation they will use hedonic adjustments to add value via features like heated car seats, push button start etc. But they don’t subtract value when they do shit like replace metal parts with plastic that breaks in 10 years.