Jed's Firearm Drill of the Month

Sure thing, just note I didn’t bring up Pressburg’s comments.

-My odds of going offensive with a rifle anymore are almost zero. This thread has been a pseudo-training document of my foray into CCW as my primary offensive weapon, and reinvigorating my understanding of the art of the pistol.

I think we’re on the same page; engage each threat until no longer a threat. I think what Pressburg is saying is that GM-class (and the downchain of M-class and serious A class shooters) tend to overestimate their skill in a gunfight based on shooting a 6 target array under perfect lighting conditions, clear backstop, and a holster that provides a .5 second draw, all while shooting (relatively…) flat-footed.

The point of my post was more to the guys in this thread that may look at that and think “Man I’ll never be as good as those guys” but my point is that you don’t have to be.

I certainly view USPSA as a valuable training tool and have taken more from USPSA than I’ve ever given to it. There is a reason why the best combat shooters in the world are still receiving pistol shooting classes from USPSA GMs.

Whereas in my opinion, in a CCW engagement, both you and the target are moving. The “backstop” is ever changing. As far as shoot/assess/shoot/assess that has to be happening in seconds if not fractions of a second, and I’m not really sure what’s the best way to train the mind for that.

One thing I’ve found to semi-replicate it is plate rack shooting, all gas no brake, then realizing when you have to go back and clean plates you missed.

The whole theory basically ties back into dry-fire for smoothness and calling shots, calculating firing solution at speed, assessing targets at speed, while you or/and they are moving.

Which in turn drives it back to “well how much time is your average CCW shooter willing to spend on the cumulative skills of defensive shooting” and the answer generally is: not much.

I think VR is coming online as a powerful training tool but I haven’t tested it yet. I think eventually the triumvirate of dryfire/competition shooting/VR (decision making) would make a pretty serious shooter.

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But as always the purpose of the thread is: go shoot your pistol more, if you’re going to carry it.

And a personal opinion for the masses: if you carry a pistol but have no med training, you just have a righteous murder fantasy, not a “protector” mindset.

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It is very hard to get people to train medical. It’s just not sexy I guess

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Ain’t gotta tell you that

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they should

my brother is licensed a emt even though he only did that actual job for a short amount of time

he’s saved more than one life just being in the wrong place at the right time and having the training to be useful.

i was with him one time and he used some lady’s baby booger remover (if you’re a parent you know the thing – the bulb that squirts water up their nose) to keep the hematoma on car accident victim’s fractured skull from further damaging their brain. from what i heard the person turned out “ok” probably because he was there and knew what to do.

lol, he also gets all the first responder discounts and promotions which according to him are pretty sweet!

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I’ve played with the VR a little, a few of the core competitors around here have shown some great improvements using it. Great for improving visual patience and practicing entry/exit for shooting positions. I don’t own a set but I’m thinking about getting one

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Same I’m just deceptively cheap about some things

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I probably harp on this too much. But the non sexy side of things, is ironically the most important part of all the EDC, prepared citizen shit, and the least valued and it pains me.

You are farrrr more likely to have to render aid to yourself or someone else, or use verbal judo or actual fucking judo, than you are to have to bill drill some skel in the walmart parking lot.

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This was the video I was more so thinking about the gets a bit more nuanced. I think lol.

In general and not to hijack zee tread, but to get into the more nuanced conversation about joe blow filling dudes in at the afromentioned walmart parking lot.

Im the first person to say your average I carry a gun for defensive purposes is woefully under prepared to use it skill set wise. Its a very small percentage of that community for lack of a better word that will ever seek good instruction, and compete to validate some of those skills and self evaluate.

How ever, I do think many of us that go off into the deepend of chasing performance metrics and shooting well, have a tendency to look through our own eyes so to speak.

And see anyone that isnt chasing A/M class kinda skill sets as retards that are going to get kilt in da skreets. Which I think is off-putting for a lot of dudes who are just getting into training and competing.

I think Jed kinda put it well in that many people are like Im never going to be Rob Letham, that shits insane.

You probably dont need to be, to be a responsible person carrying a gat.

You need to have a decent hard skill baseline, and the mental process and maturity and self awareness to apply it if need be.

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I REALLY need to get some med training. Last time that I took a 1st aid/cpr class was over 20 years ago in the Corps. Just a matter of getting rid of my hang ups on it.

  1. I’m a giant cheap ass and spending the money of a good IFAK is painful.

  2. Medical terms make my brain shut down. My ol lady has been a nurse for 20 years and a crna for the last 6. Whenever she starts talking medical with me, my eyes just glaze over.

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Suspicious Monkey GIF by MOODMAN

:index_pointing_up:t2: I am guilty of this as well. I get cpr every couple of years through my job but none of the other stuff.

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It stems from conversations I’ve had with my civilian friends who carry.
In the military we call it war-gaming but for the sake of this we’ll just call it “what-iffing”

So my buddy carries a pistol. To protect his family, right?
“What if your wife gets shot?”
“Then I’ll kill her attacker.”
“Of course. With 4-5 well aimed shots to the torso and absolutely none pulled low and left. Then what?”
“I dunno, call an ambulance I guess?”

All of us as defensive shooters have that hero fantasy where we save the day with our gun. Shits badass right? It’s been ingrained into us ever since we were old enough to watch cowboy movies. Even with out guns it’s our fantasy as men.

However basic life saving isn’t terribly complex (and I will of course defer to Surgeon, I’m just talking as a layperson that has been trained) Blood goes round and round, air goes in and out. I would wager there’s plenty of youtube series that can train you to correct any deviation from those two normalcies.

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Granted I am also a walking wet dream to personal injury lawyers given that I have received advanced training on life-saving techniques with no credentialing whatsoever…

“Your honor he cric’ed my client so badly he has to eat out of a tube for the rest of his life.”

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I wouldn’t wanna put a number on it, but out of millions of people that carry guns in the wild, hell even a lot of them professionally, I would venture a guess that its a very small percentage of them.

For the majority of the gun carrying population, the gun is a magical talisman that wards off evil IME.

This kinda bleeds back into the conversation of non sexy shit too.

I think a lot of the I take training serious dudes, who do what the internet tells them to do and take classes, shoots the occasional match still glosses over a lot of the important stuff.

I think many of us, myself included that are on the I’ve put a gang of work in shooting side, need more Varg Freeborn, Darrly Bolke, Chuck Haggard, Chuck P, Craig Douglas kinda shit in our lives, and less shoot more gooder more faster stuff.

Stuff that brings us back into the reality of can I also keep myself out of prison and ruinous financial debt. SHOULD I shoot, can I avoid having to shoot/stab/punch this guy.

Am I emotionally and mentally prepared to not shoot grandma and her grandkids in the back ground if this gun comes out. Possibly at detriment to my own physical well being.

Can I stop my wife from bleeding to death because she fell mountain biking and a sharp stick is now jammed through her fucking leg.

While Im certainly in garbage shape. I think it brings up fitness too.

Mark Smith has a great story about watching his kids swimming and having the crazy dad thought about what if I had to rescue both of them right now. Am I in that kinda shape?

Or would I have to choose which one of my children to save, and how would I explain my decision to my wife.

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Since getting back into (and out of…) jits, I’ve taken a hard look at my mat conditioning this past year.

As Bas Rutten says “if you lose a fight because of your conditioning, you’re the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.”

It’s a free advantage. So I use that mentality to get off my ass and go do cardio. If I’m going to walk around unarmed (which I do, often.) Good conditioning is like having an extra weapon.

Even crackheads gotta gas sometime.

Allow me to shill for Tactical Barbell again. Don’t let the name fool you, it’s a very very customizable programming set.

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Re: Craig Douglas, I’ve wanted to set up a program using airsoft for force-on-force “typical criminal engagements” much like the CPL I’m putting together.

Hard to find the people with the time.
Hard to find the venue.
Hard to justify spending 1k on GBB Glocks and accessories.
Easy to find excuses.

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I will say that one of the bigger “oh shit” eye opening experiences in my “career” as a shooter. Was no/low light force on force with airsoft pistols. That was one of the things that lead me to taking formal low/no light class work lol.

Well structured force on force stuff, for joe blow citizen IME is mind blowing when you make it “real” and not just adventure training.

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I feel I could beat the shit out most the male population. Unfortunately a good chunk of them could probably just run around me in a circle currently and then dog walk me :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming:

Cardio is king. Anyone that thinks otherwise has never been tired during real violence. It sucks. Learned that lesson very early during hood rat shenanigans.

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Shit I learned that real fast as a JV wrestler

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July entry. I picked a couple random retention drills. This was a fun one.

Firing hand garment pull; retention 5 body, full presentation 1 head

(1) Support hand garment pull, retention 5 body
(2) Firing hand garment pull, retention 2 body, firing hand 1 head
(3) Firing hand garment pull, retention to full p. 5 shots
(4) Firing hand garment pull, retention 2 body, full p. 2 head
(5) Firing hand garment pull, retention 2 body, step full p. 2 body

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