Jones Sends Message to anyone trying to Dethrone him as the GOAT of MMA

So?

Manhoff fought at WW and MW comfortably.

And Fedor flight bigger guys than him at HW.

It’s a cheap shot parroted by Fedor haters, and should be above the more knowledgeable people here.

Please..

Jones spent the better part of 8 years cherry picking and not finishing fights. He had 2 finishes and one got overturned.
Then he “moved up” and fought one guy who didn’t show up and another who was 43 years old coming off a loss and a 3 year layoff.

Fedor went almost 10 years hardly dropping a round and he STILL has more finishes than Jones has fights.

Oh good grief.

The greatest HW should always have the GOAT-status advantage over the greatest WW.
P4P is overrated.
Anyone who believes GSP has a GOAT claim, but the guy who had the greatest run in HW history doesn’t – isn’t making much sense.

Lol. 33 years old in his prime and losing 3 fights in a row.

Jon went in and bullied the current HW champ at 37.

It ain’t close.

Unfortunately he can talk all the shit he wants, cause hes right.

And i dont like the man, but his skills are fantastic.

If only hokit was taller

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Fedor wasn’t in his prime then.

That’s like saying Tyson was in his prime in the mid 90s.

Context matters.

He “bullied” a guy who had a recent injury and just showed up for a payday and isn’t even known for grappling in a supposed “evolved” era.

It doesn’t mean shit next to Fedor’s or any great HWs accomplishments.

As aHeavyweight, Jones doesn’t even crack the top 10.

This is when I stop taking you seriously.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Also…peak Fedor would likely kick Jones’ ass – and so would several other historically great HWs – which Jones is not.

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Fedor beating Jon is hilarious. And I like Fedor a lot more than Jon as a fighter and person.

Just mainlining nostalgia in to the veins.

Who else is destroying Jon from that era?

Jones has 17 title wins and they were all against top 5 ranked opponents I believe many if them ranked number 2.

Fedor is great I love him but he probably has less than or around 10 top 5 ranked wins. Now to do it at HW for so long undefeated is special so I’ll give some bonus points there but it’s not quite enough.

The depth of talent that Jones fought is pretty insane too.

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Peak Fedor in a Pride ring beats Jones.
What the hell is Jones gonna do, maybe get a decision?

Eye poke him to death?

Depends on the ref, but possibly.

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And with the possible exception of DC, Fedor’s best opponents are likely beating most of those guys.
As great as they were, guys like Shogun and Rampage aren’t beating Cro Cop and Big Nog, etc. Neither is Gustoffson.
And Shogun/Rampage were no longer at their peaks when Jones beat them.

Jones benefited from good timing as much as anyone I have seen.

He wasn’t do dominant vs guys like Reyes, Santos, Smith, OSP, and Gustafsson (the first time). Even Glover.

And of course, when he moved to HW – well he was making his own good timing then…

hes got it on the point system i posted
but in my eyes the goat must have more finishes than decisions

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I wouldn’t say “destroys”..

Multiple eras…

Big Nog
Cro Cop
Barnett
Arlovski
Reem
Lesnar
JDS
Cain
Werdum
Stipe
Ngannou
DC (at heavyweight)

That’s 12 historic HWs (other than Fedor) off the top of my head.
I’m not saying they all beat Jones.
Ring vs Cage would be a factor with some.
Some have more ways to beat him than others.

But there is no way in hell Jones runs the table vs all those guys.
He doesn’t have the HW resume to back that up.
Even the DC fight is different at HW. We will never know, and maybe Jones just had his number. But those weren’t one-sided fights.

I think naturally big HWs with serious power and high level grappling give Jones big problems.
We haven’t seen him really have to deal with that.
He dominated previous era LHWs when he had a size advantage. And when he no longer had that significant of a size advantage, then he wasn’t dominating and finishing guys like he had before. He was competing, at LHW.

The conversation about Jones being the GOAT begins and ends with his MULTIPLE failed PED tests. Sorry, but anyone that thinks a confirmed cheat can be considered GOAT is dumb as fuck and their opinion on this is worthless.

To anyone saying dumb shit like “Well, they all do it!”, I’ll refer you to a famous quote in a crime documentary from Alonzo Harris:

“It’s not what you know. It’s what you can prove.”

It’s been proven on multiple occasions Jones is a doping faggot. No amount of cope can change this fact.

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The UFC has done a good job of white washing Fedor from history. Hes seldom in the discussion for the greatest although he’s got the best resume and longevity of anyone in the sports history and in the biggest stage.

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Yep.

The UFC has a significant and effective propaganda arm.

It’s one of the things I don’t like about Zuffa and post-Zutfs UFC.

As good a job as what they did with Frank Shamrock.

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Jones is the best to ever do it, but he’s also unbearable. I am sick of hearing from him. You’re retired, dude. Just be retired.

And that’s without getting into what a piece of shit he is as a person.

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Once we take away all the people on PED’s we’re left with one clear GOAT:

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