Mark Kerr Recalls classic Pride 1 Matchup was Fixed

[NiteProwleR]

@Soup_and_Whiskey_CTT

don’t remember that one but the Cro Cop vs Yoshida fight

Hidehiko Yoshida vs Don Frye Pride 23 Championship Chaos 2

[Debraco]

Against royce

[NiteProwleR]

Rickson vs Nakai was legit. Nakai wanted to kill Gracie backstage he couldnt wait. Unfortunately, Nakai was too small and was fighting half blind. Gordeau robbed us of a great welterweight.

[Jacinto]

Royce had brass balls. He would fight anyone no matter size or background. I think the Gracies were very protective of Rickson in the fact that when Royce lost he could always be the legendary family figure in the background they could claim was actually the best Gracie but no one could afford to pay him enough thus keeping the family legacy and invincibility in the clear.

[Debraco]

Renzo and Royler fought anybody the promoters put in front of them

[Jacinto]

They all did except Rickson.

[billyball2]

@Jacinto

They all did except Rickson.

Yeah, I think Rickson was too wrapped up in the mystique of being ‘undefeated’

No professional fighter goes undefeated for life when they are fighting in a ring with rules. His family members embraced that fact, but he couldn’t seem to.

[Jedburgh1]

As I recall even Helio said his record was bullshit or inferred it at least

[Jacinto]

I don’t think Rickson was afraid of losing personally but more worried about the damage it might deal to his families reputation if he did since all the other Gracies already had losses on their records.

[PrideWasBetter]

@crabScissors_CTT

Kerr is a tank, but he doesn’t have the “too dumb to lose” thing a lot of fighters do.

Excellent point.

[KaiTangata_CTT]

@FG_Gall

Serious question — did Takada ever do a legit fight?

Yes!

[KaiTangata_CTT]

@Jedburgh1

As I recall even Helio said his record was bullshit or inferred it at least

He scoffed at it because even he knew it was absurd!

“If you count all fights like everybody else does, including Rickson, who says he has 400 fights; if you count like that, I have a million.”

[Rabid_Bunyip]

@HongKongPhooey

I’ve already warmed up four times. And when you warm up, you blow your lungs out, you get your lungs heated up, you get ready to go and it’s like, ‘Aw shit

[TimDuncan]

Frye vs Takiyama was a work

Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama 💪 | PRIDE FULL FIGHT (2002)

[Red_Stuff]

Hey Debraco I hadn’t seen you since the move to the new site. Glad you’re still around.

[Rabid_Bunyip]

@TimDuncan

Frye vs Takiyama was a work

True.

But neither of them (nor anybody else) was in on it

[FingerorMoon]

@PrideWasBetter

So who was ricksons toughest opponent?

Did he beat anyone that should have been a tough matchup in MMA?

Funaki was Rickson’s best opponent. And he did fracture Rickson’s eye socket in this fight.

Pancrase: Rickson Gracie vs Masakatsu Funaki (2000)

[Spinelock]

Ryo Chonan’s flying heelhook had to be a work, no?

[Debraco]

No, the helio faction chose judiciously, to mitigate the chance of loss. There’s a limit to the number of “moral victories” one can wrack up before it reflects negatively on the product

[Debraco]

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