MMA History Podcast(TM) Rafiel Torre + #2 Roundtable

[williepep]

I was at a work dinner event where they mixed people from different companies and such.

Young lady at table said she grew up Southside Chicago did this did that in College this sport achieved this that.

I started to ask if she knew our MMA detective and how we chat about history and frequent flyers and working numbers.

Surprisingly a brief moment of better judgment entered my mind and I just decided to compliment her sporting achievements.

[MasterOfMartialArts]

@HongKongPhooey

Gerald Strebendt has made a phone call to murder suspect Rafiel Torre and episode five here is the continuation of that phone call. This is the last spot where we will hear Rafiel Torre’s voice on these tpes.

Once again, like the last episode, the LAPD equipment in 2003 is questionable as the sound on te tapes is poor at times. Follow along on the subtitling.

Didn’t know these tapes existed, I will be listening throughout the week

[MasterOfMartialArts]

@MMAHistoryPodcast

Greatly appreciate the kind words

We are going to start doing “add reads” plugging this place as well as @MasterOfMartialArts blog

I was listening to this at the end of the Torre episode

I can’t express my gratitude enough.

Yall are truly doing the lord’s work here

Love you guys

[MasterOfMartialArts]

@HongKongPhooey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuYMryzRf3M

So does anyone think he had any formal training at all?

He says he had a karate school, I wonder if anyone ever tried to confirm this?

From his pad work he didn’t look good but he also didn’t look like somebody who’d never thrown any strikes before. Sloppy and bad technique but didn’t look like his first time.

If he was a karate guy, he wouldn’t know how to punch anyways lol.

[NiceWhiteGuy]

Gerald said Rafiel had a Karate school in Oregon and claimed to have learned in Hawaii. He could have been a Karate BB. So many people in the 80s did, though. Some kids got their BB after a couple of years.

[MasterOfMartialArts]

@NiceWhiteGuy

Gerald said he had a Karate school in Oregon and claimed to have learned in Hawaii. He could have been a Karate BB. So many people in the 80s did, though. Some kids got their BB after a couple of years.

Maybe Kenpo?

Shit was crazy back then. I wonder if any of Torre’s students would talk about their time in his academy in those days.

[HongKongPhooey]

he lives in Oregon now

[MasterOfMartialArts]

@HongKongPhooey

he lives in Oregon now

Gerald?

[HongKongPhooey]

absolutely

[Bilgewaterbrandon_CTT]

Did he try to pin his crime on Gerald at one point? I ask because when the topic came up he made some jab about Gerald moving to a country with no extradition (Gerald if you’re reading this, I’m only talking about you like you’re not here in case you don’t see this question yourself)

[HongKongPhooey]

@GSTREBENDT

[Debraco]

If he had a black belt in anything it had to be kenpo

[Debraco]

For anyone who hasn’t seen this, ed doty’s short film

[MMAHistoryPodcast]

@williepep I need to know a few things about the woman that you had a meeting with

If she mentioned that she excelled at volleyball or basketball she must have went to Mother McCauley or Marist high school

ANYWHERE else she is full of shit and from the suburbs

Tell her that your good friend went to Mount Carmel

[fuck.alta]

think he coulda kicked eddie bravos ass?
maybe eddie pulls guard and chokes him out…
seems he said he was innocent, but strebendt lied to get him convicted
lol

[NiceWhiteGuy]

Here’s a legal doc if you have some time to kill.

Fear Not Law Articles: P. v. Torre

[GSTREBENDT]

He changes it every few years. Right now he says I had nothing to do with it but not long ago he said I did it. In court he said I didn’t do it that Angel hired someone but he didn’t know the man.

[LionsDenGuy]

@MasterOfMartialArts

Maybe Kenpo?

Shit was crazy back then. I wonder if any of Torre’s students would talk about their time in his academy in those days.

I’m very curious about this as well. Didn’t he have schools at one time claiming to be jiu-jitsu schools? I believe Mike mentioned in the interview Rafiel Torre’s East/West Jiu-Jitsu (I think I have the name right) in CA. The school where Luigi Fioravanti trained at early in his career. I’d love to hear Luigi and/or other former Torre students detail that training and what went on in his schools. Was it a case of very beginner students coming in and not knowing any better about the training they were receiving or did Torre have qualified instructors teaching for him and he was never on the mat? I’d love to hear thoughts from people who trained either with him or at his schools. Gerald said in his interview that Torre’s fight camp in preparation for his fight was basically showing up to the gym on occasion, doing some spinning kicks, messing around for a bit with some basic techniques and calling it a day. I guess the high level guys he was around at the time just figured he was the supposed legendary black belt that had it all figured out?

[SuzukiSoulja]

You can see in this interview what made Mike Davis a great detective, his ability to get Torre to open up was impressive. Torre seemed to feel like he had a friend and as the interview progressed he was just happy telling his story and reliving his glory days. Almost lonely guy at the bar, happy to have a receptive ear vibes.

[MMAHistoryPodcast]

The one thing that drives me crazy is when the person asking questions wants the sound it’s of them dunking on the subject

Let them amswer the question

Discuss the lies after

Mondays release we discuss the issues in his story as well as recall what made Rafiel special as a reporter

The guy did legit reporting… I know many won’t admit that fact, but he was a good reporter