The OnlyGround Extended Fasting Thread

Your theory about too many carbs too fast is likely correct. Your body had adapted to burning fat and ketones for days, and suddenly switching to high-carb foods (oatmeal, fruit) likely caused an insulin surge and electrolyte shift, leading to the lightheadedness and fatigue.

Next time, try a more gradual refeed with broth, protein, and fats first, then add carbs in later meals. This should prevent dizziness and help your body ease back into eating mode more smoothly. Good job on completing a 4-day fast! If you extend next time, you might also want to supplement electrolytes during the fast to make refeeding even smoother.

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I have to do one soon to get back on track

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Thanks for the advice, that sounds good. Any particular electrolyte suggestions and how often during the fast? Once a day? (As it gets hotter here in AZ that sounds like a necessity.)

Are you doing keto before the fast?
I have used LMNT electrolyte packets.

If you do strict keto leading up it makes it easier and the first 3 days aren’t as rough. I’ve done several 5 day and an 8 and an 11. It’s been almost 2 years I think since I’ve done one, wanted to do at least a 5 once a year, but didn’t.

Planning short one 3-5 for Feb and then maybe longer in March, April and beginning of May before a physical.

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You just want one that has sodium, magnesium and potassium - obviously no sugar and I highly recommend totally flavorless , so not even artificial sweeteners as they can sometimes trick your body into an insulin response

A few good brands:

  • LMNT Raw Unflavored - Best for hot weather & heavy sweating (very high sodium).
  • Redmond Re-Lyte Unflavored - Best all-around with a good sodium-potassium balance.
  • Keto Chow Drops - Best liquid, easy to add to water with no taste.

Or you can buy bulk powder of the three ingredients and DIY - cheapest and fully customizable (so add more sodium if you sweat a lot)

For DIY:

  • ½ tsp salt (Himalayan or sea salt)

  • ¼ tsp potassium citrate powder (or Lite Salt)

  • ¼ tsp magnesium citrate powder

Mix into 1 liter of water with a squeeze of lemon for flavour (optional)

Don’t drink the full liter, just ¼ to ⅓ a cup at a time

Take in the morning because you’re generally dehydrated after sleep and after exercise. If your really struggling with dehydration take before sleep as well

Sodium (salt) is the most important but if you’re exercising the mag and pot will help avoid energy crashes and cramps

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Thanks for taking the time to write all that out, very helpful. Next fast should be at least 5 days and better organized.

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Best to avoid anything artificial of course, but can you advise which ones? There are some that do not as proven by Og’ers during fasts while testing

Avoid: Maltodextrin, aspartame, sucralose (with fillers), saccharin, and Ace-K

Best: Pure stevia, monk fruit, erythritol, and allulose

But if you’re goal is strict autophagy I’d just eliminate them all

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I’m seeing they do not directly cause an insulin spike as they don’t enter the bloodstream, but I agree with you 100% best to avoid. If fasting for health, artificial anything is bad news.

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Also, is there a way tell if your body is having an insulin response to artificial sweeteners?

Im in full keto, i use:

for my sodium/potassium/electrolyte supplement.

Few times a week i drink a sugar free energy drink and occasionally have a diet soda with a meal.

I’m getting good results now (down 10lbs in the last 4 weeks), but I’m worried about artificial sweeteners messing up my ketosis. I would like to keep them in my diet tho as they seem to go hand in hand with caffine.

Our master faster had energy drinks and tested with strips and it didn’t slow him down. That’s my only real world experience. I also had them, wasn’t tested but got the same results as I did with none.

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Keto piss strips

Test your ketones before consuming the ½ to hour later

If your ketones drop

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Autophagy is like your body’s built-in recycling system. When you fast, your cells don’t have new fuel coming in, so they start cleaning up old, damaged parts and repurposing them for energy. It’s like taking out the trash and using the scraps to build something better…helps with cell repair, longevity, and possibly even disease prevention. Basically, fasting puts your body in ‘deep cleanse’ mode instead of just ‘maintenance’ mode

So the response is that quick huh? I’m currently testing my ketones once a week.

Is there a test strip you recommend?
I’m using these:

Thanks for the advice btw, this is an awesome thread already

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…i learned something today :pray:

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I use these but I’m in Australia


If what you’re using works I’m sure there all the same :man_shrugging:

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Awesome.
Last question.
What color do you want to be on that chart? best i have got so far is that 15-40 range, sometimes its in the 5-15.

I could probably figure this out myself, but you’re dropping some knowledge on this thread.

I use this guide

  • Light Ketosis - 5 to 16 mg/dL (Fat burning has started)

  • Optimal Ketosis - 16 to 31 mg/dL (Best for weight loss, fasting benefits)

  • Deep Ketosis - 31 to 52 mg/dL (Extended fasting, metabolic benefits)

  • Extreme Ketosis - 52+ mg/dL (Prolonged fasting, therapeutic use)

I aim for extreme because I’m a fucking savage lol but if your hitting 30 or 40 you’re good

It depends how long you’re into a fast and how much exercise you’re doing (increases against those measures)

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Ok, haven’t eaten anything since Thursday :grimacing:
Just water and electrolyte powder
Going for 5 days.
last weigh in was feb 3rd @191.2

Feel good, euphoric almost :man_shrugging:
Excited to eat again tho. One more day to go after this

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