Best thing you’ve ever said on the OG…imo anyway.
The west is actually starting to lean back into man = provider or at least some women are waking back up to it. Lots of women being open about their desire to marry a provider. It wasnt like that 20 years ago.
Yep! No judgement. Some men are great, some are not and sometimes it doesn’t work out. Not having employment or experience if that time comes leaves you doomed.
Good for them! I truly hope it works out for them! 
I always wondered who those dumb marketing slogans worked on.. LOL.. Thanks learned something today.
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Not if the man tells her he wants her home 
If you put more effort into your weight and appearance you could probably count on your ability to attract a provider (and a 2nd one if first one doesn’t work out).
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Lmao! I’ve seen divorced woman make this mistake and starting over at 45 years old isn’t fun.
A man is not a plan.
Was waiting for this comment! Amazing!
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Its true though. Its rough for men in the west. Biggest imbalance (best male providers, ugliest/fattest females).
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I was paying over $300 a week for daycare until my daughter from 1 year old until she was 4 and started PreK. She goes to private school and I’m saving money compared to what we were paying it’s fucking crazy to me. Even without the state scholarship/school choice voucher I’d be saving a ton.
Part of the problem is the 2 income trap that society created. Feminism has convinced women that work is the only way to be fulfilled (a total lie) and being a stay at home mom isn’t as valuable (total bullshit).
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I hear ya! It’s rough for women too! Western men can’t keep their dicks in their pants.
Divorce is sad, it’s awful for children but it happens and there isn’t anything wrong with a man or a woman having a backup plan.
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Ya i don’t know i feel like we could go off on a huge tangent here.
Imo we need to lean into our roles harder. I am not a woman hating incel here. I hate deadbeat fathers and think we should actually go harder on them in regards to taking care of their financial obligations regarding children. No one on OG will agree with me here. I have a unique view on the topic that doesn’t align with your view or the view of 90% of the OG.
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It’s nice to know that you’re not a piece of shit to your wife!
It’s too bad men couldn’t be more like you.
That only gets you so far, especially if you live where there is winter.
We have a small garden we plant every year. It’s enough to replace some of what we’d buy, but it’s not large enough to be self-sufficient.
Unless I want to turn my entire back yard into a garden.
My wife worked at one of the departments of the hospital where I did my year long internship. It was an office full of AWFLs (affluent white female liberals) 
They just LOVED her at first since she is Filipina and thus she became their little POC mascot…
,until she told them she was quite conservative politically and intended to be a stay-at-home mom for several years.
The AWFLs were HORRIFIED.
“Is your husband making you do this? What a creep!”
“No, he’s not, I want to raise my kids and we think it’s in their best interest AND ours.”
You’d think she told them she eats human flesh, they were so shocked 
She wasn’t their mascot after that, esp. after she blew up at them for patronizing her once and saying s/t like “Well, surely as a woman of color you think x-y-z…” and she snapped “No I fucking don’t think that - and why would my skin make me think that way? I grew up WAY poorer than any of you, and I know from personal experience all this stuff you’re pushing DOESN’T HELP.”
Now, 15+ years later, she just feels sorry for them - the cats, the boxed wine, the anti-depressants, the whole stereotype - it fits most of them ot a T. And the ones who have kids? One kid per family. Not like our situation at all. Yet they felt qualified to pass judgment on her.
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And this is the core of what’s wrong with society today.
Solid families come from solid marriages and that requires being able to depend on each other.
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I do.
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AWFLs are destroying everything that made the west better than the rest of the world.
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I’ve told my daughter this. I told her she needs to look at the total picture on the quality of life. She might make 3x more money living in NYC but I told her about the violence and other stressors. You can’t put a price on safety and pease of mind. The cost of living is insane and you are living the rat race.
I told her she could live with me and I could help cook and shuttle kids around as well as baby sit. If she decides to move to a shit hole city I might move there for a while to help out, I’d hate it though.
My daughter is only 14 but she still listens to me and she is very intelligent. Hopefully she thinks of these things when making a decision.
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