You’re lying again.
The holyfield fights were Mike’s to take. He had basically every advantage in those fights. Speed, power, age, less mileage on his body.
He still got crunched though 
In terms of ability Tyson was obviously past his prime too.
Certainty nowhere near his peak.
I think Evander had a higher floor than Tyson though.
Ceiling is debatable IMO.
Of all the things that never happened…
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Again, Evander is better in every meaningful and measurable way. Against common opponents, head to head, in terms of accomplishments, strength of resume. He’s just a better boxer. Doesn’t mean Tyson wasn’t great.
Vitor is one. If you take away the resurgence late, he completely fell apart after the Sakuraba fight for basically a decade.
If he’s trolling, that’s one thing.
I tend to think he’s partially trolling too.
No halfway knowledgeable person thinks Douglas beats a peak Tyson who actually came prepared.
But the idea that anyone who got KO’d more than once by professional HW fighters – had a “weak” chin – is absurd.
So hopefully that’s part of the troll.
Nobody is suggesting that Lewis has a chin like Chuvalo.
But there’s a ton of landscape between that and a “weak chin”.
If only there was a way we could determine who was better lol
But but but! Mike didn’t have enough advantages! He needs more than just merely being the faster, more powerful, more experienced guy!
You should call all the boxing experts of the time and let them know how much smarter than them you are!
You act like I just made these things up in my head. It’s very common knowledge that a lot of people in the boxing world questioned his chin. Dummy.
Maybe.
But that still doesn’t mean Evander fought peak Tyson.
I’m a big Holyfield fan.
One of my all time favorites.
I asked you to name me someone who fell off like Tyson did and is still considered great… So you name someone who was arguably better in his late career than he was in the early career
Fighting a guy who is basically hung over and has been partying for weeks is a pretty good advantage itself.
So is fighting a guy who can’t see out of one eye because his corner is a joke.
Advantages.
Advantages everywhere … Lol.
This is a curiously non-specific statement.
I notice you like to move goalposts, while pretending you aren’t moving them.
Interesting troll…
“Hey guys, I know Mike Tyson fell apart in basically every tough fight he ever had, but it’s not ok for you to use that as evidence he might struggle in this tournament… I drew a fake line that only includes the fights he won! We must adhere to the line!”
It’s moving the goalposts to mention that a lot of guys in the boxing world had the same questions about his chin that I mentioned?
Curious, would it be moving the goalposts if a boxing expert happened to agree with one of your genius takes on things? Lol
Not for nothing, but Mike Tyson was without a doubt the most carefully managed heavyweight champion ever. He fought exactly 1 fight as an underdog in his career (vs Lennox Lewis).
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Who are the fighters he should have fought in his prime? Bowe and Lennox? The underdog thing may point to how weak the competition was.
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Foreman, Morrison, Mercer, Bowe, Holyfield, Rahman, Maskaiev, Moorer, Byrd, Tua, Witherspoon, Lewis, Cooney.
Witherspoon was an also ran at that point. Cooney as well. Morrison, Tua (Ibeabuchi too I guess) Byrd are good ones. George would have been a great fight. Moorer as well. Good list. Also I don’t think he would be the underdog against most if not all of them.
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He fought Bruce Seldon instead of Bowe, Lewis or Evander. The Holyfield fight was signed after Holyfield looked totally washed against Bobby Chyz. I’m not suggesting Tyson was a coward. I’m suggesting Don King could make unlimited amounts of money having him fight guys like Buster Mathis and it wasn’t worth risking him against someone like Lewis. People wanted to see Tyson execute people, the public at large wasn’t interested in a competitive fight. They enjoyed the novelty of the baddest man on the planet. He would have been favored going into a fight against anyone. But Bowe would have battered him I believe. He’d be a huge underdog in a rematch. How we never got a third Holyfield fight will always mystify me.
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