Just how good was shogun?

Kirsten Dunst Lol GIF

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Of course, not. He actually earned a real belt.

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Plus remember as horrific as these beatings seem to us it’s another day at the office for these guys. They sacrifice their bodies for cash. Sadly the CTE is often their final reward.

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his early fights in Pride were absolutely brutal. him and his brother. legendary characters.

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The majority of MMA history has been single fights for belts.
The Superfight belt became the HW belt, and it was just as “real” as any other belt or title setup by matchmakers.

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Here we go, again with your wild conspiRACIST theories.

Dont Fuck With Me GIF

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top notch, best 205er in pride

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Second best.

Best fight eva between those 2 (both goatish)..

Fuck do I miss Pride..

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better than wand

see arona and quinton fights

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Kept you waiting huh ?. .

To me the only better run in Pride was Fedor’s. Loved to watch Shogun’s fights, always exciting.

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All Pride fights were goat when I look back. The atmosphere, the way they pronounced names and the mob thing all made it perfect..

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Disagree.

MMA math.

I think Shogun was the more dynamic striker and more squirlly from his back.
I think Wandy was stronger and more powerful in the clinch.

Head-to-head I think Wandy beats him, and pretty sure he did over a dog.

It’s very close though.

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Covers all three. Champion, Legend and HOF’er

Not easy to accomplish

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He was unbelievable. Clearly roided up, but so was everyone else. I forgot just how easily he mowed down Rampage. He made him look like a chump.

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Fantastic to watch

Entertaining and skilled

Fighter of the year, two years in a row