Hume won’t respond
We have a huge file on him
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i tried too
I am not going to educate you clowns on. how
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Your glasses are working right
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need the truth about the northern lights suplex.
ive seen hume admit that fight was a work on youtube. ive also heard the fight was an exhibition, but for some reason, its on both guys records as real
Here’s what Ken said about it in a 2015 interview…
William Colosimo: Matt Hume- I wanted to touch on him a little bit. How did you two meet?
Ken Shamrock: I was actually asked to go and see those guys when I was involved with Pancrase, to start recruiting for the U.S. for Pancrase- so I went out there and saw those guys and worked out with them a little bit, and I started teaching them the stuff that we were doing in Pancrase. So when I got down there, I saw that there was some talent there- definitely way behind the eight ball- but I said OK, I think these guys could definitely pick up and learn something so I went back and told Japan, These guys- we could use these guys- no question.
WC: On Jeff Osborne’s Fightworld VHS tapes- I think they were the December 1998 and January 1999 tapes- you were talking to Jeff about the Hume match and said that you had agreed to work that match- or maybe have an exhibition?
KS: Me and Matt?
WC: Yes.
KS: I talked to Matt and I said that we would go in with each other but I wouldn’t hurt him. I wouldn’t hurt him, because he had been so green. I did the same thing with Maurice Smith, in the tournament- I told Maurice If you hit me, you knock me down, that’s great, I get it- but if I get you in a heel hook, and you spin and try to get out, you’re gonna hurt yourself. So those were understandings I had with guys because I was so much better than they were. And I’m not going to go in there and abuse these guys. So I would go to them and make an agreement: Listen, if I get you in this situation or this situation, it’s up to you– whatever you want to do- but I’m not going to go in there and beat you up.
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Yeah I remember Ken talking about the Smith fight before too. Not the same as a worked fight.
in kens book he said thats how almost all his pancrase fights were. he could beat everyone, but he had to make it entertaining. iirc in pancrase at that time u could rope escape 4 subs and still win the fight
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5 Point System, you lose a point for every ropebreak/knockdown.
Problem is, Ken has said some very stupid shit over the years - I’m not sure how much I can believe him..?
Yeah of course Ken said that - he could beat everyone with ease but just chose not to at times 
to be fair, he said it about pancrase, not ufc
These are really interesting! Thanks for sharing. This is the first time I have ever seen any footage of him really teaching. There used to be some footage on YouTube years ago of Perretti commenting backstage following a UFC event during his time as matchmaker. I don’t remember the exact event, but I remember Jens Pulver had fought and he walked by during the backstage interview and Perretti congratulated him. This would have been after his blow up with Ken Shamrock too because he eluded to the fact that Ken didn’t want any part of the current UFC roster and referred to him as “mediocre ankle cranker”.
I have never thought Ken was “that good”
Seems quite overrated on the forum over time
Holy shit epic find. I’ve never seen him on video actually doing martial arts. That is ONE intense guy!
LOL at “don’t help me up” when the guy tries to help pull him stand back up from he ground.
If this video is from the 80’s that’s before he hooked up with Lebell or the Machados, interesting. Apparently he coined the phrase Mixed Martial Arts in 1989.
Connection to Gene LeBell and the Machado Academy
Perretti’s direct exposure to Brazilian jiu-jitsu came through one of grappling’s most storied figures. Gene LeBell — the legendary catch wrestler and martial arts polymath — introduced Perretti to the Machado Academy, where he trained as a student and gained firsthand experience with BJJ on the mat.
The Machado Academy Incident
His time at the academy ended abruptly when he was told not to return. Perretti has discussed the episode as emblematic of the resistance he encountered from segments of the BJJ community during his years in early MMA. The falling out centered on a specific exchange with John Machado that Perretti has recounted in pointed terms — a dispute he frames as reflecting a deeper cultural friction between a BJJ establishment and the promoters working to build something new around it.
In his telling, the community “were incredibly fearful” of him, and the message was blunt: “Don’t come back.” Perretti has argued the resistance stemmed from a fundamental misreading of his intentions — that “the sport that I was creating wasn’t for them” in the narrow, style-promotional sense some in the BJJ world assumed. A fuller account of the incident, including the circumstances of the phone call with John Machado that precipitated the final break, appears in his memoir, The Origin of a Species and Mixed Martial Arts.
A few times now Perretti has said that he has never done a takedown, or words to that effect. I wonder what that means exactly. Whether it’s a philosophical stance on fighter or he literally can’t do any.
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Guy is so fascinating. I feel like I have PTSD from just watching that video, I can’t imagine taking classes with him. Just the one time I met him at BHJJC his intensity freaked the fuck out of me (like 100% death stare serial killer eyes). I can see why Gene Lebell liked him lol.
According to this interview he was already training at the Machados and Lebell when UFC 1 came out in 1993.
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you da man jman